tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371584550619647066.post6783058480928996479..comments2022-11-29T10:08:59.910-08:00Comments on Sir John Franklin's Lost Expedition: New Search for Erebus and TerrorChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05564076916142050022noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371584550619647066.post-14512288722941125502009-07-20T09:12:49.261-07:002009-07-20T09:12:49.261-07:00Chris, I heartily agree -- these relics should be ...Chris, I heartily agree -- these relics should be looked at again, my modern experts in marine history, wood, fabrics, etc. The NMM may have done a reasonable job of keeping these objects safe, but it has done very little to make them available to researchers, and rarely makes them available to anyone without charging ridiculous fees (I happen to know that the NOVA producers paid $10,000 for for the privilege of having a few of these items taken out of storage and discussed by a curator on camera). There should be a national effort in the UK to get them to change their policies and make these items available at no charge to legitimate researchers!Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371584550619647066.post-52652057534083518702009-07-18T10:46:57.851-07:002009-07-18T10:46:57.851-07:00Some have theorized that the Utjulik ship was the ...Some have theorized that the Utjulik ship was the Terror. One reason is a block of wood recovered by Schwatka with what might be "OR" marked on it. Most of what was found in Erebus Bay is said to have come from the Erebus (haven't done the inventory myself). The theory here is that a much as possible was taken off of the Erebus before the ice crushed her. David Woodman suggests that the ships were not far from McClintock's Boat Place while they were still manned.<br /><br />Not only would the steam engines identify the ship but some of the cans and sledge harnesses were marked with an "E" or "T" depending on which ship they came from. Apparently the heating systems varied between the two ships as well. A debris field might actually make it easier to recover some items.<br /><br />I haven't given up hope that an intact ship may lay to the west of KWI. But ultimately it wouldn't surprise me if the ship was splintered. Breadalebane was crushed by ice but is still largely in one piece. There was a photo online showing her bow with the numbers still painted on the waterline.<br /><br />Part of a writing desk was obtained by Hall which was said to have come from the Utjulik Ship. Schwatka found a board with "LF" spelled out using brass tacks. The Inuit claimed it was a part of the Utjulik Ship but it has defied explanation ever since it was recovered. Admiral Wright claimed the board as proof the Utjulik wreck was the Investigator (abandoned in 1853 far North in Mercy Bay). The items collected by Schwatka and Hall haven't been examined in a long time. Perhaps these relics could tell us something? I wonder what is required to gain access to these relics? It would be a big help with the cutlery project.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564076916142050022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371584550619647066.post-89905379427516353292009-07-17T05:44:50.372-07:002009-07-17T05:44:50.372-07:00I've been surprised as well that the new priva...I've been surprised as well that the new private expedition has set its sights so far north. There'll be nothing but spars and splinters there, although if they find the railway engine, then at least we should be able to know which ship it was that was crushed further north, and ergo which it was that was anchored off the Adelaide Peninsula.Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.com